They're as old as the Bible. This book (click here) is a classic from the dot. com era. The authors explain how industries evolve and change. Think about catalog marketing, once dominated by the likes of Sears and JCP and Montgomery Wards among others. ...
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Kevin Hillstrom: MineThatData

Marketplaces

They're as old as the Bible.

This book (click here) is a classic from the dot.com era. The authors explain how industries evolve and change. Think about catalog marketing, once dominated by the likes of Sears and JCP and Montgomery Wards among others. Everything consolidated to a handful of gatekeepers. Then "specialty catalogers" ... the Lands' End and LL Beans of the world, they took away market share. There were thousands of small (and some large) catalog brands. Eventually the large catalog brands expanded into retail/malls (i.e. marketplaces).

Then ecommerce came along. Thousands or tens of thousands of small companies erupted, taking market share from catalogers. Catalog brands folded. Ecommerce ultimately rolled-up into large marketplaces (Amazon ... Shopify ... Etsy etc).

What do we think happens when we transition from ecommerce to something that is AI-inspired? Do you honestly think that Amazon will be the big winner? Or do you think that something comes up, something we didn't expect, and that "something" does "something new" better than incumbents?

It's likely to be the latter.

This is more about what happens to "brands". They grow, they thrive, they struggle, they die. It's unavoidable.

Your "boutique brand", however, can adhere to a different set of rules. That little Italian restaurant on the corner has been around for three decades. They've survived all changes. How did they do that? Why do you keep going there?

Yes, there are going to be grifters that sink the economy as they try to force their version of AI upon us. We've seen an endless supply of grifters in the last quarter century ... the Enrons, the Mortgage Backed Security purveyors, and in the past decade politicians. It's going to be an awful experience in ecommerce to wade through the grifters. But we'll do it. Everybody always does it.

Your "boutique brand" doesn't have to adhere to the migration from the marketplaces that dominate the 2020s to the marketplaces that will be created for the 2030s. Plan accordingly, and have a vision for what is best for your customers.

        
 

ROAS = Profit (It's Just Harder To See It)

There are (too) many digital marketers who, when you talk to them about profit, say that they don't measure profit. "I don't need to measure profit, I measure ROAS, ROAS is a best practice".

The fun part of the comment is that the digital marketer IS measuring profit, s/he just doesn't realize it.

Here's a table for a digital marketing initiative, broken down into deciles for the sake of illustration.




We see total results on the left - I converted the results to incremental outcomes by decile. In this example, deciles 7/8/9/10 lost money, they were unprofitable.

Now look at Incremental ROAS on the far right. An approximate Incremental ROAS of $2.25 is unprofitable. Anything below that is unprofitable.

If you have the discipline to keep incremental activities above a 2.25 ROAS, you're generating profit. Good for you!

        
 

The Report Lies To You

Non-catalog readers, take the day off.

Once again, I share these images to show you just how wonked-up AI actually is. Spelling errors. Missing legs. If it's this wonked-up with a simple cartoon, imagine what else the gurus are trusting that in reality is completely borked?



But I digress.

Last week a member of the #printisback community on LinkedIn decided that #brands need to go back to 1996, as if J. Peterman were about to publish the Urban Sombrero on the cover.



The root of the lie being told to you is called "Matchback Reporting". Matchbacks ignore incrementality. Those who believe in Matchback Reporting ignore reality.

Time for a parable. Remember when I told you a member of the retargeting community took me to lunch, and for the cost of a Caesar Salad wanted me to convince the Management Team at a large retail brand that because 95% of ecommerce customers saw at least one of his ads he deserved credit for 95% of ecommerce orders (over $300,000,000 in annual sales) and he wanted a percentage of each transaction. If he presented those facts to you, a smart cataloger, you'd say "hey, Goober, get out you Lemonhead." Then you'd go back to your cubicle, pull out your Matchback Report, and perform the EXACT SAME ANALYSIS AS GOOBER DID and treat it as Gospel. You'd think that Goober was an idiot, you'd view you as a savvy marketer. And yet? You're the same person, doing the same thing, sans Caesar Salad.


Let's assume that your catalog is active across a four-week period. Let's assume you were going to mail your entire twelve-month customer file. You randomly select 50,000 customers to be in the mailed segment, you randomly select 50,000 customers to be in your no-mail / holdout segment.

You then sum all demand across all marketing channels for the four weeks when the catalog is active. Compute an average (i.e. divide each sum by the 50,000 customers in the segment). You'll produce a table that looks like this:



This is the way test results generally look. If you don't mail a catalog, your call center is quiet as 78 year olds cannot call you if they don't have a catalog in their hand. Website / Direct Load is where most demand happens, most of the demand will happen if you don't mail the catalog. Email Marketing is usually not impacted by catalogs, though your mileage will vary. Search is a channel that is clearly impacted by catalogs - catalogs cause customers to search for competing products (both a strength and a weakness of catalog marketing because your dumb catalog drives your smart customers to the competition). Social is almost never impacted by catalogs - completely different audiences.

The magic in the table happens in the Total Demand column.

Your matchback reporting takes full credit for the $5.65 of total demand. It ignores what would have happened if the catalog were never mailed. If the catalog were never mailed, the $5.65 total becomes $4.25 ... not $0, but $4.25.

Here's what the p&l might look like for the $5.65 figure.



Everything looks good here ... you appear to generate $1.54 profit per catalog/book ... in modern parlance you generate a ROAS of 7.53. It's the 7.53 figure that the #printisback community on LinkedIn like to refer to ... it's a much higher number than that 3.88 figure you get for paid search or 2.97 for paid social or ... wait ... they never quote email marketing because email marketing has the best ROAS, period.

Remember - your holdout group did $4.25, not zero. Take the control / holdout group average ($4.25), divide it by the mailed group average ($5.65), and you get 75%.

This means that 75% of what is outlined on the matchback report is a lie. A fabrication. It would have happened had the catalog not been mailed ... and you know this is true because in the table YOU DIDN'T MAIL THE CUSTOMERS IN THE HOLDOUT GROUP!!!!

We cannot run the p&L on the $5.65 that is likely reported in your matchback report. We have to run it on the incremental total ... $1.40 ... which is (1 - 75% = 25%) of the $5.65 total.

The p&l changes, friends.



This is where things get really dicey. The incremental outcome (a loss of $0.18 per catalog) is REALITY. The matchback-reported totals column of $1.54 profit is FANTASY.

On LinkedIn, the #printisback community communicates FANTASY results to you, misrepresenting the outcome as reality.

It's pretty obvious why they'd do this.

  • $5.65 per book / $1.54 profit = Best ROI, which means you should hire them.
  • $1.40 per book / ($0.18 profit) = It might be time to shut down your catalog division.

When I communicate (via analysis of thousands ... seriously ... of catalog mail/holdout tests across 36 years) what a smart catalog brand should be doing, I'm generally derided by the #printisback community, and for good reason. I want you to do what is most profitable for your business, they want you to do what is most profitable for their business. Do you see the distinction there?

So, yes, the #printisback community is probably right ... I'm not one of them as they tell my clients.

But I'm on your side. I want you to be as profitable as possible. Matchback reports lie to you, and somebody has to communicate that to you.

        
 

Feeling Special

I gave a presentation in 2016, in front of about 1,500 people. I spent nearly an hour explaining to the audience how running an ecommerce brand would become comparable to running a sports franchise.

The audience was not impressed.

I do recall a pair of Associate Athletic Directors working for FCS Colleges reaching out to me to suggest I "had it right" - they suggested their world was heading in this direction as well. My industry didn't agree, these people who weren't in the industry believed in the thesis.

Here we are, in 2026.



As you can see, AI has a way to go. That's a catastrophic effort at creating a cartoon for me. And you need to see the cartoon to understand AI limitations. How will you know when AI completely butchers your marketing efforts? It's going to happen, and it's going to be spectacular.

Last year I stood in a luxury store with an Executive. The Executive told me to watch the customer. The customer was spending somewhere north of $5,000 ... and she had a glow that reached from Phoenix to El Paso. It was the kind of glow an Eagles fan might feel after beating the Cowboys 34-28 on a last-second touchdown pass.

The customer felt special.

The theoretical Eagles fan would feel special.

It isn't hard to see the future of ecommerce bifurcate.

  1. AI-Agents shopping on your behalf at AI-Marketplaces. That's cold and boring and sterile.
  2. Brands who make customers feel special.

To get back to the sports analogy, you're probably going to hire a General Manager at some point in the future.
  • AI-Marketplace Director reports to this person.
  • AI-Agent Director reports to this person.
  • Ecommerce Director reports to this person.
  • Creative Director reports to this person.
  • Website Operations reports to this person.
  • Digital Marketing Team reports to this person.
  • Merchandise/Marketing Communicator (Director) reports to this person.
  • Analytics Team reports to this person.

The General Manager (GM) brings everything together. She's not unlike Billy Beane in Moneyball. She has three major job functions.
  • Partner with merchandising/inventory leadership to put the best products in the best situations to have the best outcomes ... similar to what a baseball GM does with A / AA / AAA / Major League players. There's a development plan for each player. There needs to be a development plan with winning/new merchandise that is marketing-driven.
  • Lead the company into the future with AI, setting aside all the hype and grifting, focusing on what matters to customers.
  • Make customers feel special. This doesn't mean offering somebody 40% off. This doesn't mean triple-loyalty-points. This likely means creating digital and offline events that fill an emotional need with the customer. This isn't fundamentally different than six Saturday home game afternoons during the College Football season.

There are going to be new companies that create the AI-Marketplaces of the future. We have no idea who those companies are (they likely don't exist yet or they have 11 employees), we don't know what AI-Marketplaces will look like. We don't. Anybody who tells you they know is a Thought Leader. We will need a General Manager position to cut though the grifting that will happen or is currently happening.

The GM needs to also make customers feel special.

        
 

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